wolf Posted October 6, 2014 Share #1 Posted October 6, 2014 Werbung (verschwindet nach Registrierung) hallo für interessierte habe ich drei 135er gegeneinader getestet (objektiv) und werde die ergebnisse (subjektiv) hier in den kommenden tagen zeigen... es treten an: schneider kreuznach: tele-xenar 1:3.5/135; 6 blendenlamellen; m42; adapter kiwi gegen voigtländer: color-dynarex 1:4/135; 6 blendenlamellen; m42; adapter kiwi und olympus om: e.zuiko auto-t 1:3.5/135; 8 blendenlamellen; oly-bajonet; adapter quenox Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Damien Posted October 6, 2014 Share #2 Posted October 6, 2014 Meinst du nicht du solltest den Fred erst eröffnen, wenn du auch wirklich Fotos zeigen kannst? Hermann and Watcher24 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
D700 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #3 Posted October 7, 2014 Meinst du nicht du solltest den Fred erst eröffnen, wenn du auch wirklich Fotos zeigen kannst? Vorfreude ist doch die schönste Freude Vito_62 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vito_62 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #4 Posted October 7, 2014 Nun, 135 sind sehr einfach zu konstruierende "Brot- und Butter-Objektive", die jeder Hersteller seinerzeit auch relativ günstig (und gut) im Angebot hatte. Ich will sagen: ich vermute da keine so großen Unterschiede, vielleicht einen kleinen kaum sichtbaren Vorteil für das Olympus... (aber ich lasse mich gerne überraschen und auch eines besseren belehren:-) Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #5 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Meinst du nicht du solltest den Fred erst eröffnen, wenn du auch wirklich Fotos zeigen kannst? jaja schon gut ich habe noch etwas schwierigkeiten hinsichtlich der präsentation der crops und des ganzen bildes und werde heute hoffentlich eine befriedigende lösung finden... Nun, 135 sind sehr einfach zu konstruierende "Brot- und Butter-Objektive", die jeder Hersteller seinerzeit auch relativ günstig (und gut) im Angebot hatte. Ich will sagen: ich vermute da keine so großen Unterschiede, vielleicht einen kleinen kaum sichtbaren Vorteil für das Olympus... (aber ich lasse mich gerne überraschen und auch eines besseren belehren:-) ...spielverderber - nein so einfach ist es nicht ! Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furumaru Posted October 7, 2014 Share #6 Posted October 7, 2014 Da fehlt der legendäre Vierlinser (135/2.8) von Minolta. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #7 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Werbung (verschwindet nach Registrierung) das schneider bei offen blende 3.5; iso 200; stativ und el. auslöser... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360114'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #8 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) das voigtländer bei offen blende 4; iso 200; stativ und el. auslöser... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360116'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #9 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) und das olympus bei offen blende 3.5; iso 200; stativ und el. auslöser... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360117'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #10 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) das schneider bei blende 8... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360118'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #11 Posted October 7, 2014 das voigtländer bei blende 8... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360119'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #12 Posted October 7, 2014 und das olympus bei blende 8... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360120'>More sharing options...
Vito_62 Posted October 7, 2014 Share #13 Posted October 7, 2014 Ok, das Olympus ist sogar viel besser:-) wolf 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #14 Posted October 7, 2014 das schneider bei blende 11... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360123'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #15 Posted October 7, 2014 das voigtländer bei blende 11... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360124'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #16 Posted October 7, 2014 und das olympus bei blende 11... ganz: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! 100% crop links oben: 100% crop mitte: Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360125'>More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #17 Posted October 7, 2014 das war teil 1 an der naheinstellgrenze, halbwegs parallel zur sensorebene... ich habe wenn`s interessiert noch teil 2 an der naheinstellgrenze mit schärfe / unschärfe und ca sowie teil 3 auf die entfernung so um die 10m interesse? ist ein ziemlicher aufwand die crops zu erstellen aber evtl. stell ich mich auch etwas an . Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #18 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) mein fazit zu teil 1: die "beste" qualität über das gesamte bildfeld liefern die linsen an der x-e2 bei blende 8-11, danach wirds wieder schlechter (beugungsunschärfe?) das olympus hat klar die nase vorn... Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Pfirstinger Posted October 7, 2014 Share #19 Posted October 7, 2014 Man mann auch einfach ein Zeiss 180mmF2.8 Sonnar mit Speed Booster nehmen, dann bekommt man ein tolles 130mmF2 Objektiv. Demnächst mit dem neuen Speed Booster II wohl sogar noch besser in den Ecken. outofsightdd and Elmar 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #20 Posted October 7, 2014 (edited) Man mann auch einfach ein Zeiss 180mmF2.8 Sonnar mit Speed Booster nehmen, dann bekommt man ein tolles 130mmF2 Objektiv. Demnächst mit dem neuen Speed Booster II wohl sogar noch besser in den Ecken. das glaub ich dir gerne - ich habs nur noch nicht für max. 35,- auf dem flomi / beim trödelhändler gefunden sonst hätte ich wohl zugeschlagen (dürfte dann auch gerne etwas teurer sein ) die hier von mir vorgestellten objektive und adapter waren spontan käufe im vorbeigehen und wirklich low budget. das günstigste war das olympus mit 15,- zzgl. adapter und bleibt jetzt erst mal als kompaktes mf tele in der fototasche. bin natürlich immer auf der suche nach schnäppchen und wenn ich etwas besseres für den schmalen geldbeutel finde wird bei gefallen ausgetauscht. Edited October 7, 2014 by bigbadwolf D700 and Vito_62 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Pfirstinger Posted October 7, 2014 Share #21 Posted October 7, 2014 Das Problem, dass die Adapter teurer als die Linsen sind, kommt leider häufig vor. Siehe auch das beliebte Helios. Da hat mich der Novoflex-Adapter ein Vielfaches des Objektivs gekostet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #22 Posted October 7, 2014 Das Problem, dass die Adapter teurer als die Linsen sind, kommt leider häufig vor. Siehe auch das beliebte Helios. Da hat mich der Novoflex-Adapter ein Vielfaches des Objektivs gekostet. ...bei den adaptern habe ich bisher auf die günstigen angebote (kiwi / quenox) zurückgegriffen - bis ich mich entschieden habe ob die linsen bleiben und evtl. ein wertigerer adapter lohnt. der quenox ist allerdings imho wertiger (in material und anmutung) als die kiwi`s (m42, leica m39) leider habe ich die beiden varianten (m42, leica m39) von quenox nicht ausfindig machen können. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wolf Posted October 7, 2014 Author Share #23 Posted October 7, 2014 hier noch eine kleine spec übersicht... Welcome, dear visitor! As registered member you'd see an image here… Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! Quote Link to post Share on other sites Simply register for free here – We are always happy to welcome new members! ' data-webShareUrl='https://www.fuji-x-forum.de/topic/22813-135er-vergleich-an-der-x-e2/?do=findComment&comment=360197'>More sharing options...
outofsightdd Posted October 7, 2014 Share #24 Posted October 7, 2014 Bei M39 würde ich immer über die Adapterringe auf Leica M nachdenken um den Fuji M-Adapter mit seinem Menüzugriff nutzen zu können. Das ist natürlich preislich sofort die "Premium"-Variante, noch mehr bei Verwendung von codierten M39-M-Adaptern von Voigtländer oder Leica. Quenox ist wohl die Marke bei Enjoyyourcamera, die genannten Adapter gibt es dann wirklich nicht, wenn dort nicht gelistet. Es gibt über das große A diverse M42-Adapter im Design von Quenox, vermarktet unter den Labeln Siocore und Fotodiox. Aber dafür gibt es nicht mal Kundenbewertungen... Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmar Posted October 7, 2014 Share #25 Posted October 7, 2014 Ich könnte auch ein paar 135er beisteuern, wenn etwas Zeit ist. Allerdings muss ich dann erst eine entsprechende Mauer suchen. Rico, das 180er Sonnar ist eine deutlich höhere Liga als die hier genannten Linsen. Ist ja gemein. Quote Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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